Comments on: Rope rants.

By: mollena

mollena — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 08:38:57 +0000

Oh, go ahead….join the ranks of the rest of the rope bores!

Peace.

Mollena
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By: mollena

mollena — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 08:38:03 +0000

It IS a catch 22, but facts is facts: suspension is advanced play, and you really ought not fuck around with it without training. I’d love to SCUBA. COULD I buy the gear, read a book, suit up and wade into the surf? Sure. Would I? No, because there are things you just have to learn under someone’s watchful eye. I believe advanced rope shit to be one of them.

Peace.

Mollena
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By: mollena

mollena — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 08:33:29 +0000

If you go, pinch Gray for me. I’m unable to make it but I award you my pinch proxy.

Just be sure to run like a chihuahua on fire once you’ve delivered. He’s wily.

By: mollena

mollena — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 08:29:44 +0000

To that end, I insist you do a show that properly instructs people on teabagging.

By: Master Geasa

Master Geasa — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 03:54:48 +0000

I sort of agree with the it is hard to find good people to learn from post. All of my rope skills are self taught, and I think if I met a lot of the people mentioned, I could easily become a rope bore.

Surpose it is like a lot of things, and about money. People want to learn this, so we will do courses.

That said, I can honestly say not sure how much I would learn with Sabrina Fox in the room. There is a course that would be a test of my concentration.

By: StacyCat

StacyCat — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:11:27 +0000

I think there are two issues that I am worried about. The first is that suspension is dangerous, and many classes do not emphasize how dangerous this is. Safety is given a short mention, and then not really discusses.

The second is that not everyone has access to great rope people. Graydancer mentioned that he learned from Lee Harrington and Monk, and not many people have that opportunity. At least, not those without access to lots of kink events. MargoEve points this out in her rant, that the person who can only make one event may not have the opportunity to learn this elsewhere.

In kink, there is the camp that says you should learn everything one on one with someone experienced. And, in most “edge play” classes, they do mention that if someone really wants to do it, to pull someone aside (even the presenter), and have them do a more one on one tutorial.

And, there is the side that says “lets get as much information out there as we can,” to both say that this is really dangerous, but to give useful information to those that are going to do it anyway. I tend to fall in this camp, but I am the one to say “I am okay with my partner accidentally killing me, and if you arent, think twice about doing this.”
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By: qatana

qatana — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:38:00 +0000

In addition to learning how to be a good Rope Bottom,(and somewhat OT), a lot of rope bottoms need to learn “Bottoming for the Camera”. Nothing wrecks a beautiful rigging like a t-shirt & jeans. Predicament bondage is another story, but if you are doing an artistic rope photoshoot, for heavens sake wear something complementary to the scene, or nothing. I will ALways be photographed fully clothed, for political reasons, but nothing on a naked body will detract from the rope.And for heaven’s sake, don’t just hang there like a sack of beans.Make a Presentation of yourself, this is a Performance!
I agree with all the points Gray made and agree that yeah, if he doesn’t, someone will. Not only will I only allow reputable, known riggers take me Up, I will only attend classes of people who are known , with checkable references and Street Cred.
Thinking of hitting SD GRUE this winter…

By: A response to Graydancer’s “Rant” – Margo Eve.com

A response to Graydancer’s “Rant” – Margo Eve.com — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:18:46 +0000

[...] yes, I agree, there is a problem. And I agree with Mollena Williams that as long as conventions offer the “beginning rope suspension” type class in a 1.5 [...]

By: Graydancer

Graydancer — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:46:05 +0000

Actually, in the classes I do talk a lot about the skills necessary to be a competent suspension bottom – for example, when we presented at Spank Lqqkout and I also said our class was being taught by us two AND Sabrina Fox and Nyxx, our bottoms.

And I got some very nice succinct feedback from one of the attendees of my recent BR class, which I will be featuring in the next RC. Also, the talented Artemis Hunter will be doing a class on “rope bottom skills” at the Rope Academy in DC Feb. 26-28th.

Thanks for the support. I’ll do my best to become the Glenn Beck of rope in an upcoming ropecast.
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